В общем, пришёл ко мне плеер, модифицированный уважаемым eikei. Отдельное спасибо этому человеку за работу и Михаилу, за сам замысел
Итак, расскажу, сначала о том, что конкретно изменилось в самом звучании плеера и потом уже о звучании двух связок.
Плеер - SanDisK Sansa Clip+ Migel Mod
Наушники - Vsonic VSD1S, Takstar Pro80
Материал - записи различных жанров, во FLAC.
Общее и в той, и в той связке было то, что плеер играет более напористо, сцена шире, раздельность игры инструментов так же увеличилась. Звук стал, как и ожидалось, громче. При чём значительно. На сборке от gemzza(так же, благодарю за проделанную работу), если выставить повышенное напряжение, то добиться тихого звучания можно только через "предварительное обрезание"(в настройках эквалайзера). Как не странно, появился щелчок при выключении плеера.
Скажу сразу, что плеер я ждал долговато и уже почти забыл звучание "стокового" варианта. Но по памяти он сливает моду во всём. А без рокбокса так и подавно...
Очень радует то, что такой "спичечный коробок"(если на чистоту, то ещё меньше) выдаёт такой звук. Я, когда его слушаю, на мгновение забываю, что это клип...
Clip+ MM + Vsonic VSD1S
Как же я этого хотел - теперь мутность Всоников так не утомляет, можно слушать сколько угодно. Сам то я прослушал эту связку где-то пять-шесть часов. Как и писал выше - разделение инструментов, напор звучания радуют, не нарадуют. Прямо таки универсальное звучание. Характер подачи вроде как всё тот же - ровное, с небольшим уклоном в бас, но вроде как этого самого баса чуть поменьше. Не исключаю эффект плацебо...
Из недостатков можно назвать шум - хотя в наушниках и 32Ом, кроме того они динамические, шум слышен. Слышен он на тихих композициях, порой на паузе, громкость на него не влияет. Так же слышны какие-то то ли искажения, то ли помехи, когда происходит "обращение к памяти". Т.е когда загорается значок, в верхнем правом углу. Опять же - слышно оно только на тихих композициях.
Clip+ MM + Takstar Pro80
Вот тут то Такстары раскрылись, плохо это или хорошо. Слышно каждый нюанс, особенно приятно слушать инструментальную музыку. Эта связка делает хорошее настроение, а вот чем - тут вопрос.
Изменился характер подачи. И похоже, что после мода, таки, горб плеера, на басе, стал поменьше. Если до мода подача была почти нейтральная, то после вылезла та самая яркость, о которой и говорили в теме Такстаров(у меня новая ревизия). Но слух эта яркость не режет и, в общем то, я принимаю всё так, как есть. Для меня всё равно это лучшие наушники в ценовой категории до 200$.
А возможно, это просто "недокач" был... Но факт остаётся фактом.
В итоге могу сказать, что мод имеет смысл делать, только если у Вас это основной плеер, "рабочая лошадка" и слушать Вы на нём собираетесь что-то посерьёзнее, чем бюджетные затычки. В противном случае - стоит подумать, а нужно ли оно. Т.к. если у Вас есть серьёзный плеер за 300$ и более, то клип Вам его не заменит, да и обычным затычкам он уж крылья не отрастит.
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28.03.2014 22:20Последний раз редактировалось Black Velvet; 28.03.2014 в 22:47.
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28.03.2014 22:34Думаю, не стоит называть плеер замоденый Eikei'ем MM. Хоть и по его рецепту. Мигелю это будет не по душе
dx150, R3pro, mini mest
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28.03.2014 22:35По чьей? Вась, если ты пойдешь делать АМ в мастерскую с чертежами и т.д. ты мод именем мастера мастерской обзовешь?)
iFi iDSD Diablo/xDSD gryphon/Lotoo PAW Gold/QLS QA-361/iBasso DX300/MAX/64 audio A18,A12t/FIR XE6/M5/Vision Ears VE8/VE7/VE4.2/EVE20/AA AM5LAM/InEar PP8/SD-2/Jomo Haka/Softears RS10, RSX, Cerberus //MyST1866OCU v.2/Hifiman HE-4/6/PHONON SMB-02/4400, HEDDphone One, Beyerdynamic dt 250/250
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28.03.2014 22:39Вася, в подъезде ходит.
Не думаю что Михаил давал чертежи своего мода. Просто спровоцируете опять лишний срач
Если таки сделано по схеме Михаила один в один, то я заберу свои слова обратно и принесу публичные извинения.
п.с.Ейкея знаю лично и ему верю и в его работу, но тут не про этоdx150, R3pro, mini mest
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28.03.2014 22:40Похоже его уже справоцировали вы, коли я тут )
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28.03.2014 22:43Mesterolon, эти господа здесь общались и eikei говорит, что 1 в 1
Глубоко сомневаюсь, что отличия могут быть существенными.Наушники: Takstar Pro80, Grado SR60, Edifier H180
Источники: BlackBerry 9360, Sony D-E351, Denon DCD-580, HP Pavilion g7
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28.03.2014 23:22sanmigel, он переделывал
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28.03.2014 23:26Правильного выбора в реальности не существует — есть только сделанный выбор и его последствия.
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28.03.2014 23:32sanmigel, ок, не хочу срача
Правда, сообщение отредактировать уже нельзя...Наушники: Takstar Pro80, Grado SR60, Edifier H180
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29.03.2014 01:19А почему не написать просто Sansa Clip+ с усилителем на MAX97220? И никому не абидна
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01.04.2014 12:24Если кому интересно, прогнал battery bench мигель-модденой сансы с последней прошивкой от Гемззы, AS3525 установлен на high:
Код:# This plugin will log your battery performance in a # file (//battery_bench.txt) every minute. # To properly test your battery: # 1) Select and playback an album. (Be sure to be more than the player's buffer) # 2) Set to repeat. # 3) Let the player run completely out of battery. # 4) Recharge and copy (or whatever you want) the txt file to your computer. # Now you can make graphs with the data of the battery log. # Do not enter another plugin during the test or else the # logging activity will end. # P.S: You can decide how you will make your tests. # Just don't open another plugin to be sure that your log will continue. # Battery bench run for Sandisk Sansa Clip+ version c7cc549-140207 # Battery type: 290 mAh Buffer Entries: 1000 # Rockbox has been running for 00:50:57 # Time:, Seconds:, Level:, Time Left:, Voltage[mV]:, C:, S:, U: 00:00:02, 00002, 100%, 15:15, 4161, -, -, - 00:01:02, 00062, 100%, 15:15, 4152, -, -, - 00:02:02, 00122, 100%, 15:15, 4149, -, -, - 00:03:02, 00182, 100%, 15:15, 4146, -, -, - 00:04:02, 00242, 100%, 15:15, 4143, -, -, - 00:05:02, 00302, 100%, 15:15, 4142, -, -, - 00:06:02, 00362, 099%, 15:06, 4138, -, -, - 00:07:02, 00422, 099%, 15:06, 4136, -, -, - 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Все, кроме пользователей плеерру, — здоровы (в медицинском смысле данного термина).
Подпись заапрувлена лично Муркой, а также двуличным Хардкористом.
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01.04.2014 12:41Roland.msv, в 2 раза??? ой...
а экран дергали?IN PLAYER.RU WE TRUSTСпойлер:и запомни наконец - АМБУШЮРЫ
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01.04.2014 14:11YKush, ну ещё неизвестно сколько из этого расходует прошивка с поднятым питанием, потому и интересно как будет на стоке, у меня только ММ есть. Экран дёргал раз 5, но вряд ли это сильно повлияло, при реальном использовании в любом случае будет ещё меньше.
Все, кроме пользователей плеерру, — здоровы (в медицинском смысле данного термина).
Подпись заапрувлена лично Муркой, а также двуличным Хардкористом.
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01.04.2014 14:23к сожалению затестить не могу. два плеера и оба с замененным аккумулятором
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02.04.2014 07:50Попробовал ещё с пониженным питанием AS3525:
Код:# This plugin will log your battery performance in a # file (//battery_bench.txt) every minute. # To properly test your battery: # 1) Select and playback an album. (Be sure to be more than the player's buffer) # 2) Set to repeat. # 3) Let the player run completely out of battery. # 4) Recharge and copy (or whatever you want) the txt file to your computer. # Now you can make graphs with the data of the battery log. # Do not enter another plugin during the test or else the # logging activity will end. # P.S: You can decide how you will make your tests. # Just don't open another plugin to be sure that your log will continue. # Battery bench run for Sandisk Sansa Clip+ version c7cc549-140207 # Battery type: 290 mAh Buffer Entries: 1000 # Rockbox has been running for 00:50:57 # Time:, Seconds:, Level:, Time Left:, Voltage[mV]:, C:, S:, U: 00:00:02, 00002, 100%, 15:15, 4161, -, -, - 00:01:02, 00062, 100%, 15:15, 4152, -, -, - 00:02:02, 00122, 100%, 15:15, 4149, -, -, - 00:03:02, 00182, 100%, 15:15, 4146, -, -, - 00:04:02, 00242, 100%, 15:15, 4143, -, -, - 00:05:02, 00302, 100%, 15:15, 4142, -, -, - 00:06:02, 00362, 099%, 15:06, 4138, -, -, - 00:07:02, 00422, 099%, 15:06, 4136, -, -, - 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07:32:34, 27154, 005%, 00:50, 3511, -, -, - 07:33:34, 27214, 005%, 00:45, 3500, -, -, - 07:34:34, 27274, 005%, 00:45, 3488, -, -, - 07:35:34, 27334, 005%, 00:45, 3478, -, -, - 07:36:34, 27394, 004%, 00:36, 3466, -, -, - 07:37:34, 27454, 004%, 00:36, 3449, -, -, - 07:38:34, 27514, 003%, 00:27, 3433, -, -, - 07:39:34, 27574, 003%, 00:27, 3418, -, -, - 07:40:34, 27634, 002%, 00:18, 3400, -, -, - 07:41:34, 27694, 002%, 00:18, 3382, -, -, - 07:42:34, 27754, 001%, 00:09, 3363, -, -, - 07:43:34, 27814, 001%, 00:09, 3343, -, -, - 07:44:34, 27874, 000%, 00:09, 3320, -, -, - --Battery bench ended, reason: power off--
Все, кроме пользователей плеерру, — здоровы (в медицинском смысле данного термина).
Подпись заапрувлена лично Муркой, а также двуличным Хардкористом.
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Следующие 2 пользователей сказали Спасибо за этот полезный пост
gemzza (02.04.2014), Mesterolon (02.04.2014)
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- Сообщений
- 4,989
- Репутация
- 105621 (0)
02.04.2014 08:05Roland.msv, Миша говорил же, что понижение и повышение питания никак не влияют на потребление, поскольку либо на внутреннем преобразователе рассеется больше энергии, либо меньшее, а жрать он будет одинаково. Ты это дело подтвердил опытным путем. По сему теперь точно будем знать, что повышение / понижение напряжения внутри прошивки ни на что не влияет
ММ4 / FitEar 335 DW AA
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Suum cuique
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Пользователи, сказавшие Спасибо gemzza за полезный пост
sanmigel (18.09.2015)
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- 3,267
- Репутация
- 39566 (0)
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